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joining us is the former budget director for the obama administration. vice chairman at citigroup, a veteran of these negotiations, thank you for being here on a friday night. >> good to be with you. >> peter, you have been in a lot of these negotiations. you have been in their rhythms and seen how they go. what's your take? >> i think as you pointed out, it's still early. it's december 7th. both sides would be complaining if there was an agreement in place. but you can see the pieces coming together on the fiscal cliff some increase in marginal tax rates coupled with some kind of cutting back on tax expenditures. the real concern is shifting or will shift from the fiscal cliff to the debt limit. it's not clear that the republicans will agree to including a debt limit increase in that kind of package and if they don't, we may get past december 31st only to find ourselves with a big problem in february or march. >> the obama administration has been clear they will not sign anything. even to get past december 31st. so do you think they can hold firm on tha
joining us is the former budget director for the obama administration. vice chairman at citigroup, a veteran of these negotiations, thank you for being here on a friday night. >> good to be with you. >> peter, you have been in a lot of these negotiations. you have been in their rhythms and seen how they go. what's your take? >> i think as you pointed out, it's still early. it's december 7th. both sides would be complaining if there was an agreement in place. but you can see...
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which means it still needs about 23,000 signatures before the obama administration is actually expected to issue a response. we want a response. but i'm guessing with the way the fiscal cliff negotiations are going the estimated $852 quadrillion dollars of funding needed for one alone just isn't in the cards. dog gone it. i'm going to sign up tonight. >>> can both parties reach an agreement ones fiscal cliff? 40% of you say yes, 60% say no. >>> coming up, this could be one of the dumbest votes the republicans have ever cast in the history of the senate. we'll talk about the big win and the emotional reaction from moderates. that's next. what's next? he's going to apply testosterone to his underarm. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in b
which means it still needs about 23,000 signatures before the obama administration is actually expected to issue a response. we want a response. but i'm guessing with the way the fiscal cliff negotiations are going the estimated $852 quadrillion dollars of funding needed for one alone just isn't in the cards. dog gone it. i'm going to sign up tonight. >>> can both parties reach an agreement ones fiscal cliff? 40% of you say yes, 60% say no. >>> coming up, this could be one of...
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>> the obama administration and the left in the country believe so much that the muslim brotherhood is a very moderate movement, and the leader morsi is a very moderate statesman. this is why they do not believe that implementing the law will oppress women in egypt. it's like burying their heads in the sand, refusing to accept reality, and admit that everything that they believed about the muslim brotherhood and morsi is a lie. for them to admit that, it will force them to come up with different solutions to what we're facing in egypt, and they're not ready to face it. >> and we're funding them. that's another side. abbas, let me go to you. you have morsi. first the muslim brotherhood said they weren't going to run, and they ran. they got into power, targeting israel first, declaring them the number one enemy. now morsi is taking over the military and implementing shria law. will this be good for the egyptian people. >> shawn sean, we're going throa revolution in egypt. in a revolution the old regime gets purged. he took out the old cronies and now he's doing the same thing to the judi
>> the obama administration and the left in the country believe so much that the muslim brotherhood is a very moderate movement, and the leader morsi is a very moderate statesman. this is why they do not believe that implementing the law will oppress women in egypt. it's like burying their heads in the sand, refusing to accept reality, and admit that everything that they believed about the muslim brotherhood and morsi is a lie. for them to admit that, it will force them to come up with...
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which means it still needs about 23,000 signatures before the obama administration is actually expected to issue a response. we want a response. but i'm guessing with the way the fiscal cliff negotiations are going, the estimated $852 quadrillion dollars of funding needed for one steel alone just isn't in the cards. doggone it. i'm going to sign up tonight. >>> can both parties reach an agreement ones fiscal cliff? 40% of you say yes, 60% say no. >>> coming up, this could be one of the dumbest votes the republicans have ever cast in the history of the senate. we'll talk about the big win and the emotional reaction from moderates. that's next. suddenly, she does something unexpected and you see the woman you fell in love with. she's everything to you. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell
which means it still needs about 23,000 signatures before the obama administration is actually expected to issue a response. we want a response. but i'm guessing with the way the fiscal cliff negotiations are going, the estimated $852 quadrillion dollars of funding needed for one steel alone just isn't in the cards. doggone it. i'm going to sign up tonight. >>> can both parties reach an agreement ones fiscal cliff? 40% of you say yes, 60% say no. >>> coming up, this could be...
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which means it still needs about 23,000 signatures before the obama administration is actually expected to issue a response. we want a response. but i'm guessing with the way the fiscal cliff negotiations are going the estimated $852 quadrillion dollars of funding needed for one alone just isn't in the cards. dog gone it. i'm going to sign up tonight. >>> can both parties reach an agreement ones fiscal cliff? 40% of you say yes, 60% say no. >>> coming up, this could be one of the dumbest votes the republicans have ever cast in the history of the senate. we'll talk about the big win and the emotional reaction from moderates. that's next. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ and the next great idea could be yours. customer erin swenson bought so, i'm h
which means it still needs about 23,000 signatures before the obama administration is actually expected to issue a response. we want a response. but i'm guessing with the way the fiscal cliff negotiations are going the estimated $852 quadrillion dollars of funding needed for one alone just isn't in the cards. dog gone it. i'm going to sign up tonight. >>> can both parties reach an agreement ones fiscal cliff? 40% of you say yes, 60% say no. >>> coming up, this could be one of...
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this shows the overall unemployment rate under president obama's administration. which of the president's policies have helped the most in this? >> well, very crucial to this has been his decision to get congress to extend unemployment benefits, surprisingly. because people, when they have that money, are spending it back in the economy. remember, every 50th person you meet statistically only has food stamps today as income. and that's the result of these years of the republicans policies. so having unemployment and >> send thing unemployment benefits next year would be very important to continue to bring this number down and have businesses hire more people, because they have customers with money in their pockets to buy products and services. >> this is what could have happened if congress failed to pass the recovery act. the center on budget and policy priorities says that we've added almost $1 million more jobs because of the stimulus package. why are the republicans fighting stimulus spending now? why? is it they don't want to see president obama succeed or do
this shows the overall unemployment rate under president obama's administration. which of the president's policies have helped the most in this? >> well, very crucial to this has been his decision to get congress to extend unemployment benefits, surprisingly. because people, when they have that money, are spending it back in the economy. remember, every 50th person you meet statistically only has food stamps today as income. and that's the result of these years of the republicans...
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even if they are the victims of the attempt of the obama administration, correctly, to try to you know force the republicans to play ball on their terms, reality is, the collateral damage done to the poor in the meantime is so devastating, because the margin of reserve for those middle class, even compared to the poor is more significant than when you're making a dollar that you talked about and you've got go there -- i was on food stamps for three years i understand what it means to be on food stamps. most people are on welfare for two years or less, they use it as a stopgap measure. most people do not pimp the system. the perception is they pimp the system. you ain't doing much pimping on food stamps. about your a low rent pimp if you're on food stamps. >> alex? >> go ahead. >> reporter: i understand michael's point but i think he's giving obama -- underselling obama's effectiveness so far a little bit. obama doesn't talk a lot about the poor but in the negotiations, especialfully 2010, the president, his team, gene sperling and others were effective in protecting poor people's progr
even if they are the victims of the attempt of the obama administration, correctly, to try to you know force the republicans to play ball on their terms, reality is, the collateral damage done to the poor in the meantime is so devastating, because the margin of reserve for those middle class, even compared to the poor is more significant than when you're making a dollar that you talked about and you've got go there -- i was on food stamps for three years i understand what it means to be on food...
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november 7th his administration gleefully voted at the u.n. for a renewed effort to pass the small arms treaty. i don't know about you, but watching anti-american globalists plot against our constitution makes me sick." is this an indication, chris, although we don't think this is an issue that decides presidential elections it can raise money and maybe play a role in congressional elections. >> the gun issue in particular in rural parts of the country is a very emotional and very powerful issue. democrats and republicans i think realize that. the argument about somehow global treaties that has to do with the spread of arms that has to do with conflicts overseas is going to threaten second amendment rights of americans in the united states is border line laughable. at the end of the day i have not seen any democrat or any republican for that matter i've not seen the president taking away second amendment rights or making gun control an issue in the last four plus years so i'm not sure where this goes. at the end of the day, politics and ginnin
november 7th his administration gleefully voted at the u.n. for a renewed effort to pass the small arms treaty. i don't know about you, but watching anti-american globalists plot against our constitution makes me sick." is this an indication, chris, although we don't think this is an issue that decides presidential elections it can raise money and maybe play a role in congressional elections. >> the gun issue in particular in rural parts of the country is a very emotional and very...
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i think we have said ad nauseam what the obama administration is proposing -- >> techniquely the nazis didn't want to kill the pour -- >> stephanie: thank you, jim. >> which would make them extreme right-wingers. >> stephanie: i'm sure it is so noted at news busters, as they are busily transcripting the new transcript as we talk about the old transcript. no miller prefers to conjure up ominous images of woodchipers just over the horizon. whatever it takes to keep her amused. >> well, yeah kind of the point of the show. [ applause ] >> stephanie: we have got all the mulch we need between stephanie miller's ears. >> pow! >> stephanie: don't confuse mulch with soggy shredded wheat. happy face. >> what does that mean? >> stephanie: if anyone is potential fodder or mulch this gas bag is. >> yeah, so there. >> stephanie: all right. thank you. [ applause ] >> stephanie: news busters. i love you so much. i really do. okay. forty-four minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: welcome to the party barn. make we take your order? it's the "stephanie miller sh
i think we have said ad nauseam what the obama administration is proposing -- >> techniquely the nazis didn't want to kill the pour -- >> stephanie: thank you, jim. >> which would make them extreme right-wingers. >> stephanie: i'm sure it is so noted at news busters, as they are busily transcripting the new transcript as we talk about the old transcript. no miller prefers to conjure up ominous images of woodchipers just over the horizon. whatever it takes to keep her...
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the obama administration is warning assad we in america are watching his every move, especially when it comes to these chemical weapons. >> the president made it clear the use of chemical weapons was a red line. we are monitoring the regime's chemical weapons stockpiles. i won't get into intelligence matters. but with the regime's grip on the power loosening with its failure to put count opposition to conventional means, we have an increased concern about the possibility about the regime taking the desperate act of using chemical weapons. >> reporter: senior obama administration officials confirmed to fox news that for loyal to bashar al-asaad have been observed moving around the regime's to be piles of chemical weapons. though to what degree and what ultimate purpose those things remain unknown at this point. the movement of the weapons components at several dozen known sites was first reported in the "new york times." they harbor concerns about possible preparation for use of chemical weapons but sources say they don't know if they noon use them. seen or officials have spoken publi
the obama administration is warning assad we in america are watching his every move, especially when it comes to these chemical weapons. >> the president made it clear the use of chemical weapons was a red line. we are monitoring the regime's chemical weapons stockpiles. i won't get into intelligence matters. but with the regime's grip on the power loosening with its failure to put count opposition to conventional means, we have an increased concern about the possibility about the regime...
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administration. this is changing the color here is when president obama took over in january of '09. who is responsible for this turn around? >> the president and it would be a better turn around if the republicans had allowed a bigger stimulus. we'd have many more jobs. >> you'd make the case we didn't spend enough on the economy? >> we wasted 40% of that on tax cuts for small business, which is inherently savings and not stimulus. it was a real policy mistake. is this historic? >> we're going in the right direction. we're not creating as many jobs as we need for the population growth, but it's astonishing we're recovering the way we are and if the republicans would stop creating the uncertainty, remember the uncertainty by not making a deal, we'd see the numbers improving very dramatically. let me ask in terms of the stability. these are numbers. does it look historic? it doesn't. but when we were down here, we were on the verge of tipping over. our whole economic situation, our financial situation
administration. this is changing the color here is when president obama took over in january of '09. who is responsible for this turn around? >> the president and it would be a better turn around if the republicans had allowed a bigger stimulus. we'd have many more jobs. >> you'd make the case we didn't spend enough on the economy? >> we wasted 40% of that on tax cuts for small business, which is inherently savings and not stimulus. it was a real policy mistake. is this...
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. >> reporter: wolf, the challenge is for the obama administration to figure out exactly what bashar al assad is up to with his deadly arsenal. the horror remains unspeakable. 25 years ago saddam hussein unleashed one of the worst poison gas attacks in history. thousands were killed. now, in syria, u.s. concerns are growing by the hour that bashar al assad may be planning the same thing against his citizens. >> the intelligence that we have raises serious concerns that this is being considered. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence shows syria has mixed chemical compounds needed to make a deadly agent that can quickly kill thousands. >> the united states and our allies are facing the prospect of an imminent use of weapons of mass destruction in syria. and this may be the last warning we get. >> reporter: the u.s. is not precisely saying what the syrians are doing, but there are two ways of mixing elements to make a saren filled weapon. >> you have to handle it very, very carefully. a drop will kill you. often it's done at the last minute. there's another style. >> reporter: chemicals placed
. >> reporter: wolf, the challenge is for the obama administration to figure out exactly what bashar al assad is up to with his deadly arsenal. the horror remains unspeakable. 25 years ago saddam hussein unleashed one of the worst poison gas attacks in history. thousands were killed. now, in syria, u.s. concerns are growing by the hour that bashar al assad may be planning the same thing against his citizens. >> the intelligence that we have raises serious concerns that this is being...
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melissa has the former obama administration official. that's melissa harris-perry coming up next. we'll see you next week here on "up." and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like the help of an attorney. at legalzoom a legal plan attorney is available in most states with every personalized document to answer questions. get started at legalzoom.com today. and now you're protected. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your mont
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the obama administration is right they don't want to go into syria. they have avoided a u.s. military intervention but chemical weapons changes everything in the calculation. the a divisive and dangerous moment in the syrian civil war. >> it's scary, scary stuff. ambassador, i want to get your take on one other thing. secretary of state clinton had some comments about ambassador rice, someone who is speculated as her successor to secretary and of state. i want to play that for you. >> it's important to remember what susan said was based on the information that had been given to every senior official. in our administration. and she made very clear in her appearances that the information was subject to change, as more facts were gathered and analyzed by the intelligence community and looked, as often the case, our understanding evolved over time. and we've done our best to keep the american people and the congress informed. that was her goal. >> so obviously, secretary clinton offering a vigorous defense of susan rice, the context obviously being the attacks on benghazi and lib
the obama administration is right they don't want to go into syria. they have avoided a u.s. military intervention but chemical weapons changes everything in the calculation. the a divisive and dangerous moment in the syrian civil war. >> it's scary, scary stuff. ambassador, i want to get your take on one other thing. secretary of state clinton had some comments about ambassador rice, someone who is speculated as her successor to secretary and of state. i want to play that for you....
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revenue has gone up every year of the obama administration and now, we're at historic highs. the same as we were five years ago. the difference is, our spending has increased a trillion dollars. >> yeah, but a lot of that spending is things to help the economy. it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported. it's extending unemployment benefits. it's things like that. t the war. >> that's going to be the challenge of the whole perspective. we've got two philosophies. one says we're spending too much. the other saying we're not spending enough. that's hurting our economy. obviously, the last four years have been more focused on the spending. we continue to pile up more and more debt, we've crossed 100% of debt to gdp. >> but you're line of thinking, i feel like we end up in a situation where all you doe is keep cutting taxes. you start to have a revenue problem. you give a payroll tax, you don't want to tack it away. you keep giving out things and never take them back. >> well, that's the same thing we do on the spending side. >> all those agencies -- is now st
revenue has gone up every year of the obama administration and now, we're at historic highs. the same as we were five years ago. the difference is, our spending has increased a trillion dollars. >> yeah, but a lot of that spending is things to help the economy. it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported. it's extending unemployment benefits. it's things like that. t the war. >> that's going to be the challenge of the whole perspective. we've got two philosophies....
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and running the obama administration was talking about it but then it fell offer the map. what do you see going forward in the governor's race and if you are getting some pressure from the democratic party to finally make this a competitive state again. >> i haven't been on the job long enough to tell you that we worked deeply on arizona -- i haven't yet. arizona is changing. there is no reason why we can't win the governorship there and i suspect that there are many in arizona who feel their current leadership is not balanced. obviously, they wish they had a different governor. there is a huge opportunity for us there to say, hey, we think we can elect an democratic governor who can create jobs and be more balanced and stable than what you are used to. >> i want to ask you about texas. rick perry has been in office since 2000 and it is more than 20 years that texas has elected a democrat and that was ann richards. why is it so hard for texas to elect an democratic governor? >> something in the water. texas is a tough state and we acknowledge that. >> is it going change in
and running the obama administration was talking about it but then it fell offer the map. what do you see going forward in the governor's race and if you are getting some pressure from the democratic party to finally make this a competitive state again. >> i haven't been on the job long enough to tell you that we worked deeply on arizona -- i haven't yet. arizona is changing. there is no reason why we can't win the governorship there and i suspect that there are many in arizona who feel...
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revenue has gone up every single year in the obama administration, and now we're at historic highs. the difference is our spending increased a trillion dollars from five years ago, but the revenue is the same. >> a lot of that spending is things to help the economy, right? it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported, right? it's extending unemployment benefits and things like that. it's the war. >> right. that's going to be the challenge of the whole perspective right now. we have two philosophies. one is saying we're spending too much and the other is saying we don't spend enough. obviously the last four years are spending more to stimulate. i'm not sure if that will work long-term. we've crossed 100% of debt to gdp. i don't think that gets better as you get higher. >> the only thing that confuses me about it, i feel like in a situation where all you do is keep cutting taxes and have a revenue problem, right? you give a tax cut to the middle class you don't want it to take it away from them. you keep giving out things p and you never take them back. >> well, that
revenue has gone up every single year in the obama administration, and now we're at historic highs. the difference is our spending increased a trillion dollars from five years ago, but the revenue is the same. >> a lot of that spending is things to help the economy, right? it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported, right? it's extending unemployment benefits and things like that. it's the war. >> right. that's going to be the challenge of the whole perspective...
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i think that obama administration has set the tone that they will be there to bail people out. they bailed out general motors. they bailed out, you know, folks who couldn't pay their mortgages. they're helping people who can't pay for health insurance. i mean, the idea is that we can provide for people that can't provide for themselves. they've kind of set the tone that we'll be there to help you if you don't have the money for yourself. obama will be there on monday in detroit to answer personally whether he's planning to give the city any money. there's certainly precedent. it's happened before and it will happen against with the pension systems. >> greta: president ford did it with new york in the '70s. there's precedent. the problem is we don't have any money. >> we're out of money and i don't know where this ends. credit to the council woman. i think that's refreshing in politics. usually they're trying to be more tactful with these sorts of things. weesh out owe're out of money. obviously the prison and the democratic internet have some leverage but where does this end? w
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. >> schieffer: let's talk about the more immediate things, and that is the next obama administration. one of the things that strikes me, and you brought it up in the green room a while ago, joe, we have not seen the administration nominate anybody. >> anybody. >> schieffer: to any office here. we're a month into-- after the election, and we've had all the controversy over susan rice, and who know where's tha that is? what's happening? what's going on here? >> well, the administration is, as it says, studying all its options. what it's trying to figure out a way if in fact it wants to make the susan rice fight which is visually going to be a difficult fight, and if it does, how hard will it fight and how far is it willing to push? there are those who argue, look, if you put cbs news rice in the national security council and i will put senator kennedy up-- >> kerry. >> senator kerry from the senate up to nominate for secretary of state. the problem with that is tom donnell and the existing national security adviser doesn't want to leave and has no intention of going. that's complicated
. >> schieffer: let's talk about the more immediate things, and that is the next obama administration. one of the things that strikes me, and you brought it up in the green room a while ago, joe, we have not seen the administration nominate anybody. >> anybody. >> schieffer: to any office here. we're a month into-- after the election, and we've had all the controversy over susan rice, and who know where's tha that is? what's happening? what's going on here? >> well, the...
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the black rock ceo said he's not seeking a job in the obama administration. fink has been rumored as a potential candidate to replace timothy geithner. he says he wishes the media would believe he doesn't want the job and plans to stay at blackwell as long as the board wants him. >>> negotiations have reached a deal to end the eight-day strike of the ports of los angeles and long beach. striking clerical workers and longshoremen who refuse to cross picket lines will be back on the job later. shippers and the union agreed to federal mediation on tuesday. the clerks have been working without a contract for two years. the strike shut down ten of the port's 14 terminals, backing up several ships waiting to off load their cargo. >>> still to come, egyptian president morsi has returned to work just a short time ago after leaving the palace during protests last night. we'll have the very latest from cairo when we come back. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is t
the black rock ceo said he's not seeking a job in the obama administration. fink has been rumored as a potential candidate to replace timothy geithner. he says he wishes the media would believe he doesn't want the job and plans to stay at blackwell as long as the board wants him. >>> negotiations have reached a deal to end the eight-day strike of the ports of los angeles and long beach. striking clerical workers and longshoremen who refuse to cross picket lines will be back on the job...
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martha: lindsey graham says the benghazi attack is a failure of the obama administration to get tough with terror. >> we need to get into the details of why they died and why we left our con that so unsecured when the british left and everyone else. if we don't change our strategy from a foreign policy, change this lightfoot print approach to the war on terror there will be more benghazis. martha: what about that morning. i'm joined by kt macfarland. kt, it's so interesting. you watch these shows and you hear benghazi brought up. so often the reacross is get over it. move on. move on. why should we not move on? >> because that wham we did in 1998 when there were twin bombings in u.s. embassies in east africa and in 2000 when there was an attack against the u.s.s. cole in the region. what are we doing now? fast forward a decade. we have had attacks on american soil at consulate and americans had died. what are we doing? we are arguing with ourselves. we know where those died training camps are in eastern libya. why not go after them. what is the lesson al qaeda takes from this? once ag
martha: lindsey graham says the benghazi attack is a failure of the obama administration to get tough with terror. >> we need to get into the details of why they died and why we left our con that so unsecured when the british left and everyone else. if we don't change our strategy from a foreign policy, change this lightfoot print approach to the war on terror there will be more benghazis. martha: what about that morning. i'm joined by kt macfarland. kt, it's so interesting. you watch...
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>> well, that's the big -- that's part of the reason why the obama administration has done in the views of many so little toward getting president assad out, and that's because they are just really afraid. syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after the united states invasion in 2003. syria would be that times 10. and there's a lot of worry about what are you going to do with that? you have a worry about the slaughter of the allies in the mountains. you have to worry about just this whole break-up and who would govern this region that is so, so -- this country that is so critical for the whole region. but i do think, though, that chemical weapons would be sort of -- that -- i think for the obama administration, that's a line that they would have trouble defending their passivity so far if assad crossed. that's a hard one. it's hard for me to imagine them not doing anything. >> but given that they haven't really done very much over the past 21 months, and they haven't done very much at all, it's not implausible that they would not do the clar tiff thin
>> well, that's the big -- that's part of the reason why the obama administration has done in the views of many so little toward getting president assad out, and that's because they are just really afraid. syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after the united states invasion in 2003. syria would be that times 10. and there's a lot of worry about what are you going to do with that? you have a worry about the slaughter of the allies in the mountains. you...
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guest: this is a longstanding concern and one reason why the obama administration has said they're not interested in sending sophisticated weapons and to syria. the organization referred to in the article is considered one of the most effective fighting groups on the ground. many of the members are seasoned fighters from the i wrapped insurgency. there also -- iraq insurgency. while they may be somewhat smaller raley numbers, they're far more effective on the ground and it is a growing cause for concern in the situation in syria continues to deteriorate. the u.s. has decided or looks like they will designate the front as a terrorist organization. in that way, that may put some controls on the funding going into this organization and isolated from the other rebel groups on the ground. fact of the matter is in an environment as volatile as the one in syria, without a major presence on the ground, it's quite difficult to deal with an organization like this one. host: this photograph gives you just one neighborhood back in may in damascus with the broader question of what life is like in d
guest: this is a longstanding concern and one reason why the obama administration has said they're not interested in sending sophisticated weapons and to syria. the organization referred to in the article is considered one of the most effective fighting groups on the ground. many of the members are seasoned fighters from the i wrapped insurgency. there also -- iraq insurgency. while they may be somewhat smaller raley numbers, they're far more effective on the ground and it is a growing cause...
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it is going to be, i think, the obama administration's call especially with the external pressure of the israelis kind of constantly hovering out there and netanyahu's talk about a red line. when is the united states going to get really serious about the second track? i'm one of these people who believes there is an agreement out there that could be reached and that would lead to a non-nuclear weapons iran. but i think the diplomacy has to be stepped up. and jack's point about a republican conservative able to achieve agreements of this sort that are more difficult for a democrat is a very important one he here. no matter what kind of agreement -- if there's an agreement reached with iran, it will be attacked by a lot of constituencies, but many of them are going to be republicans. >> i could give you many examples where democratic president has reached major agreements, too, but well let that go. jack? >> in any situation you have windows of opportunity possibly. there are other times when the personalities make it impossi e impossible. it wouldn't have helped in the 1930's. the thi
it is going to be, i think, the obama administration's call especially with the external pressure of the israelis kind of constantly hovering out there and netanyahu's talk about a red line. when is the united states going to get really serious about the second track? i'm one of these people who believes there is an agreement out there that could be reached and that would lead to a non-nuclear weapons iran. but i think the diplomacy has to be stepped up. and jack's point about a republican...
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., the obama administration, nato now obviously very concerned about the regime of president assad potentially using chemical weapons, poison gas against its own people. here's the question, what is the difference killing civilians in syria with bombs from jet fighters or attack helicopters as opposed to using say poison gas or chemical warfare? >> that's a good question. in one sense in moral terms, there is no difference and almost 40,000 people have died in syria already. but i think the use of chemical weapons and poison gas, i think the fatalities would be very much greater. and it does cross a line. these aren't judgments that you can make in any scientific way. but i think what your administration, the international community is signaling to president assad, if you cross that line, there will be a strong reaction. >> those are tough words coming from president obama, from secretary of state hillary clinton, from the nato secretary-general today in brussels. but is that enough to president bahar al assad from using chemical weapons or is there something else the international community s
., the obama administration, nato now obviously very concerned about the regime of president assad potentially using chemical weapons, poison gas against its own people. here's the question, what is the difference killing civilians in syria with bombs from jet fighters or attack helicopters as opposed to using say poison gas or chemical warfare? >> that's a good question. in one sense in moral terms, there is no difference and almost 40,000 people have died in syria already. but i think...